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				<title>serbia update</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ hi marc,

after a lot of querying around, i've managed to find a definitive and corroborated ADM1/ADM2 structure for serbia.

primary source: http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szerbia_k%C3%B6rzetei

corroborated by my serbian friends.

i'm attaching a tab-separated CSV that holds all the records to modify, delete and add. (there is a duplicate ADM2 level item, and another that needs to be added.)

before updating, please demote all current ADM2 items either to ADM3 or ADMD -- they are NOT ADM2 level items. the ADM1 division is correct; and the attached file holds the correct ADM2 divisions. there is another subdivision on ADM3 level but i couldn't get a sufficient list for that.

(basically, serbia has the voivodina and central serbia division on ADM1, and then there is grad beograd (the capital and surrounding area), and all the rest are "okrugs" (counties) on the ADM2 level. the "opstinas" are subdivisions under the okrugs and grad beograd, presumably they would be ADM3.)

also, there's a column for the hungarian (language code: hu) names of the ADM2 divisions, please insert them in the correct db.

cheers!]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 23 Feb 2012 06:18:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ subpardaemon]]></author>
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				<title>Re:serbia update</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ any ETA when Grad Beograd will be inserted as an ADM2 division?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Feb 2012 07:27:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ subpardaemon]]></author>
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				<title>Re:serbia update</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ It is here:
http://www.geonames.org/8199669/belgrade.html

The admin2 codes are official codes?

Best Regards

Marc]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:08:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ no, they're not, i couldn't find any official codes for ADM2 divisions (and i've tried), so far they seem to be nonexistent. in wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Municipalities_and_cities_of_Serbia , see lowermost table) they are given numbers, but that's only because of the cyrillic alphabet -- they are just ordered. but then the city of belgrade doesn't have a numeric code, instead it has a special status. so i guess either numbers like that (and maybe 99 for the city of belgrade as an ADM2 div), or the abbrevs i came up would do just fine.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:37:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:serbia update</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Serbia have official codes

<a href='http://webrzs.stat.gov.rs/WebSite/repository/documents/00/00/56/87/RG10_013_eng.pdf' target='_new' rel="nofollow">http://webrzs.stat.gov.rs/WebSite/repository/documents/00/00/56/87/RG10_013_eng.pdf</a>

Bye]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 2 Mar 2012 12:51:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Complete list

<a href='http://webrzs.stat.gov.rs/WebSite/repository/documents/00/00/44/11/Sistematski_spisak_naselja.pdf' target='_new' rel="nofollow">http://webrzs.stat.gov.rs/WebSite/repository/documents/00/00/44/11/Sistematski_spisak_naselja.pdf</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 2 Mar 2012 12:51:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ could you then collect the ADM2 codes for the okrugs? the complete list is huge and is in cyrillic (i can read cyrillic but not that fast), the csv is there for the download and modify and upload. :) i'd really like to start using serbia, but until the official ADM2 codes are used, there's little point in that. (it's only about twentysomething okrugs and one belgrade, shouldn't take too long.)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 3 Mar 2012 07:47:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:serbia update</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'm sorry but I do not understand the Cyrillic]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 6 Mar 2012 06:59:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:serbia update</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ marc,

here's the definitive list of serbia's ADM2 divisions with the codes taken from lillolollo's link (the cyrillic long list), so except for grad beograd (which does not have an ADM2 level code yet it is an ADM2 level division), all codes are official. i nominate in absentia of a real ADM2 code for grad beograd the code GB.

mind you, i really had to dig deep to be able to reboot my ability to read cyrillic (esp. the serbian version). :D but it worked in the end.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 12 Mar 2012 06:54:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Beograd have code 0

I have found the official list and tree okrugs->municipalities whit code in xls format

<a href='http://webrzs.stat.gov.rs/WebSite/userFiles/file/Opsti%20podaci%20u%20Republici%20Srbiji/Latinica/Opstine%20Gradovi%20tekuce%20stanje%202011.xls' target='_new' rel="nofollow">http://webrzs.stat.gov.rs/WebSite/userFiles/file/Opsti%20podaci%20u%20Republici%20Srbiji/Latinica/Opstine%20Gradovi%20tekuce%20stanje%202011.xls</a>

Bye]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:32:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:serbia update</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ ops wrong link

<a href='http://webrzs.stat.gov.rs/WebSite/userFiles/file/Opsti%20podaci%20u%20Republici%20Srbiji/Latinica/Opstine%20Gradovi%20tekuce%20stanje%202011.xls' target='_new' rel="nofollow">http://webrzs.stat.gov.rs/WebSite/userFiles/file/Opsti%20podaci%20u%20Republici%20Srbiji/Latinica/Opstine%20Gradovi%20tekuce%20stanje%202011.xls</a>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:32:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yes, but code 0 in geonames is reserved for unknown/unassigned, so it would be a very bad idea to use 0 for grad beograd.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 18 Mar 2012 06:19:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ marc is on holiday  :D ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:00:04]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ No exactly on holiday, but working abroad in Brindisi and of course it needs a lot of time to explore the fantastic region: Alberobello, Matera, Castel del Monte, Gargano, Trani, Bari, Gallipoli, and many many more
Next week I will be back :-(

Best Regards

Marc]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:39:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:serbia update</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ yes Puglia and Basilicata are beautiful and cuisine is delicious  :wink: ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 29 Mar 2012 06:12:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ marc can you insert the codes please?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 12 Apr 2012 06:59:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I have inserted the adm2 codes and the adm3 codes where I have found them with a simple name comparison. a lot of adm3 are still missing.

Marc]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 12 Apr 2012 21:23:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:serbia update</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Many admin divisions have the old code I think

Like Opština Bač]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 13 Apr 2012 06:47:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I found 54 more to update.

Marc]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 13 Apr 2012 07:20:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ marc I'have cecked all Serbia entryes
here can found documents for update in the future

<a href='http://webrzs.stat.gov.rs/WebSite/Public/PageView.aspx?pKey=411' target='_new' rel="nofollow">http://webrzs.stat.gov.rs/WebSite/Public/PageView.aspx?pKey=411</a>

If you change the laguage in cirillyc you can found ciryllic place name

Bye]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:21:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi all,

I'm new here and would like to help in regards to this topic. Please let me know would this link below be more helpful here? There are official adm codes, relations in between regions and municipalities, listed both in Serbian Cyrillic (@rs) and English (@en). 

http://rs.ckan.net/dataset/rzs-register-of-teritorial-units/resource/f5bc9cb3-1c8e-45c9-96b9-e133a6b22b3e

Click "Preuzimanje" button there for a complete list.

Regards,
Moca]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:17:09]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The regions seem to have different codes then the ones we are using. Do you want to prepare a list with the information to be added? (geonameid, name in Serbian). It would facilitate the update a lot.

Best Regards

Marc]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 2 May 2012 14:47:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I'm willing to do it, just let me know which list I have to update? Is there a template I can use?

Thanks,
Moca]]></description>
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